Currently serving as the Senior Gender Advisor
for the United States Institute of Peace, Dr. Kuehnast will receive our Perdita
Huston Human Rights Award. Her human rights efforts have focused a great deal
on women, gender, and the conflict/post-conflict arena, and we had a great
conversation about her life, passions, and pursuit of human rights. If you have
ever wondered what connection gender has to peace and conflict, and what
bearing the current and ongoing conversations about gender equality have on our
future, you should definitely take the time to hear what she has to say.
UNA-NCA - To start out on a lighter note—we know that
you completed your field work for your doctorate in Kyrgyzstan. Are there other
countries you have lived or worked in, as well? We would love to hear about those
experiences and the continuing impact on your life.
K.K. - I am what some sociologists call
a “third culture” kid. I spent six years of my childhood in Germany and then
the Philippines as my father was in the Air Force. While abroad, my parents
made sure we traveled often and I always
have loved seeing how different societies and countries solve human
organizational problems. It wasn’t until I entered graduate school to study
socio-cultural anthropology that I fully appreciated how my experience as a
child outside of my American culture helped me understand the anthropological
approach of “participant observer.” As a young adult, I traveled extensively
throughout Russia, the former Yugoslavia and East Germany, Tanzania, Kenya, and
Europe.
My
first solo trip when I was 24 years old was by bicycle from the west coast of
Ireland up through Northern Ireland during “the troubles.” It was also my first
experience in a conflict-affected country. I worked that summer at the
reconciliation community called Corrymeela. I still draw from my time there,
especially understanding the day to day trauma and healing of the children who
grow up in violent conflict.
I learned how early hatred is taught and fear is spread. Nevertheless, healing
is possible.
“One critical reason why we need a broader lens to understand gender is to respond to ISIL’s violence against women and girls in conflict and fragile settings. We must address gender in its complete socio-cultural dimensions—that is gender is not simply another name for women; men and boys are also gendered beings.”
UNA-NCA - Now,
when did you first connect human rights, gender, and peace/conflict issues?
K.K. - While living in
Kyrgyzstan as it emerged from its 70 years under Soviet rule, I began to
connect human rights, gender and peace and conflict issues. Later at the World
Bank, these connections became more apparent in my work as part of a cadre of
social scientists examining the economic impact of the USSR’s collapse on women
and children and their subsequent impoverishment. In some regions, collective
farms and industries were shut down and jobs disappeared nearly overnight.
Women attempted to bridge economic upheaval by selling off their belongings,
books and prized possessions. In Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan, one of the first
laws debated by their new governments was legalizing polygamy. Witnessing how quickly human rights and
social protections can disappear during social upheaval, and in the case of
Tajikistan, during civil war, it became clear that we cannot take any rights
for granted. Human rights must be continually protected.
UNA-NCA - This is
a really definite path you have travelled. What brought you into the field of
gender and human rights in the first place—what would you say ignited that
passion for you?
K.K. - The first time I realized that
there were different social rules for girls and boys was when I was in
kindergarten in 1960. When I told the class I wanted to be an astronaut when I
grew up, my teacher said “You can’t because you’re a girl.” I was so surprised
I told her without thinking, “You’re wrong.” Then, she told me I had to stay
after school for talking back. I guess you could say I became a feminist that day.
Much later, in Kyrgyzstan, while doing fieldwork for my PhD on Soviet
gender policy and its impact on Central Asian Muslim women, this began my
curiosity about gender dynamics.
When I arrived in the USSR in 1990, I immediately recognized what Soviet
women called their “double burden” – required to be both the good worker and
the good mother. Although women were as educated as men, if not more so, and
since the 1930s “freed” by the state to join the work force, they nevertheless received
little support to fulfill the dual roles of worker and caregiver. Many of these
social norms came to an abrupt end when the Soviet Union fell apart in 1991. Living there for 22 months, I witnessed the
malleability of gender norms for both men and women, especially in the context
of a society encountering massive change. Thus, began my lifelong examination
of the anthropology of transitional societies.
UNA-NCA - You
have worked hard to engage men in the fight for gender equality. Why is gender
equality not just a "women's issue?” What have been some of your biggest
challenges and greatest successes in that expanding area?
K.K. - One critical
reason why we need a broader lens to understand gender is to respond to ISIL’s
violence against women and girls in conflict and fragile settings. We must
address gender in its complete socio-cultural dimensions—that is gender is not
simply another name for women; men and boys are also gendered beings. The
tendency among policy makers and practitioners alike is to use gender and women
interchangeably.
Why is this important? In order
to understand the nature of this brutal and extreme violence, we must broaden
our analytical lens to include how “hyper masculinity” notions of manhood are
being propagated by ISIL. We must continue to challenge not only ISIL’s human
rights abuses, but also its flawed notions about Islam and gender. We need to
ask more gender aware questions such as “What does it mean to be an ISIL man.”
Does this sense of failure to become a man in their own society lead to their
distorted notions of power and extreme violence? Unless we broaden our
discussion and incorporate a broader gender lens, we normalize this hyper
manhood, this violent rite of passage for a generation of young men, and I will
also add young women who chose to join this perverted form of human war.
Although a critical part of gender equality is focusing on the
empowerment of women and girls, I also believe that we cannot reach gender
equality without engaging men and boys. I think the UN’s HeForShe campaign is a great way to begin articulating
this change.

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